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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Jan 29, 2014 21:35:04 GMT
Carnotaurus sastrei
Neovenator salerii
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Post by Allosaurus on Feb 14, 2014 21:06:06 GMT
neovenator wins imo. carnotaurus might have been larger, but it has poor weaponry compared to neovenator. neo has a far superior bite and has much larger arms and claws.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 14, 2014 21:19:02 GMT
Carnotaurus sastrei is ~600kg larger, it is a pretty strong animal. It might have had a weak bite, but it hada good gape, and we know for a fact that even Deinonychus antirrhopus had a very strong bite, being able to damage bones, as a paper says. So Carnotaurus would have a very powerful bite on its own, but its opponent is no pushover. Arms won't be very useful, since they can't be actually really deadly (unless they damage the foe's eyes, which I find unlikely). A slap or slash from Neovenator salerii wouldn't generate enough kinetic energy to cause severe damage.
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 15, 2014 11:34:51 GMT
those claws can dig some really deep wounds in. But the skull over all is a more used weapon. I am leaning towards carnotaurus
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 11:56:33 GMT
I have explained that they can't cause that much injury (by doing a slapping move, holding and slashing is actually very effective and I agree with you if this is what you were talking about), the arm is not that heavy compared to the foe' body, which means a slap-like move won't generate enough kinetic energy to cause a powerful impact.
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 15, 2014 12:08:06 GMT
Well considering bears can knock people clean of their feet with swipes and even break bones as I have heard. Neovenator could do more but I doubt it would do as much damage to carnotaurus.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 13:24:17 GMT
Well, Bears are larger than humans (by a lot), but this here is a situation where it is smaller. Also, Bears have stronger front limbs than Neovenator salerii, at parity (if we ignore the square cube law). Not by much really, but they have far more impressive, muscular front limbs.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 15, 2014 13:30:03 GMT
I would actually lean towards Carnotaurus here, due to its size and strength advantage. Although Neovenator does have a superior bite overall so Carnotaurus is not leaving the fight unscathed.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 13:32:55 GMT
Don't forget that not just biteforce matters, but how it is used.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 15, 2014 13:35:55 GMT
Although we can't really speculate Neovenator biting method or anything.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 13:39:06 GMT
Are we speculating its biting method? We aren't speculating anything, in fact it is very factual that they had different biting methods, considering they have far different maxillas.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 15, 2014 13:44:41 GMT
I never said you were speculating a bite method...
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 13:53:22 GMT
So why did you bring that up?
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 15, 2014 14:09:15 GMT
Fali mecha
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 15, 2014 14:12:58 GMT
This is ~65% in favour of Carnotaurus sastrei, in my opinion.
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