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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 16, 2014 21:57:28 GMT
Does anyone have a Torvosaurus tanneri skull picture with a scalebar?
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 16, 2014 22:04:35 GMT
 I don't have a picture specifically of Torvosaurus' skull, but from this I can judge it is roughly 1 metre in length. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 16, 2014 22:05:56 GMT
That's about ~110cm isn't it? I measured it roughly.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 16, 2014 22:13:12 GMT
That's about ~110cm isn't it? I measured it roughly. Ye it is. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 16, 2014 22:15:41 GMT
I guess I will make a skull scalebar for it later.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 16, 2014 22:31:07 GMT
Saurophaganax had a more efficient biting method and a more manoeuvrable skull/neck, while Torvosaurus had a stronger bite force judging from both their skulls. Overall I think the Allosaurid's bite is more efficient, but both were still very devastating.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 16, 2014 23:20:33 GMT
I would say they are just equally efficient, but I think Saurophaganax maximus has a better method of applying more force (if it uses Allosauurs fragilis' method).
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 17, 2014 19:23:10 GMT
You can just use the theropod data base for fucking measurements instead of using a picture
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Mar 5, 2014 21:00:21 GMT
Also, just a heads up, Saurophaganax maximus isn't exactly like Allosaurus fragilis, there are differences such as lateral, horizontal laminae along the base of the neural spine, craniocaudally expanded ends of chevrons, atlas lacks prezygapophyses for proatlas and does not roof over the spinal medulla.
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Post by thesporerex on Mar 5, 2014 21:34:26 GMT
Obviously not exactly the same, its common knowledge but there are enough similarities for it to be a very good base to use as its a lot of people think it is synomimus with allosaurus
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Mar 6, 2014 16:39:15 GMT
Obviously not exactly the same, its common knowledge but there are enough similarities for it to be a very good base to use as its a lot of people think it is synomimus with allosaurus Yes, but that isn't the point. |
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Post by rexog90 on Mar 6, 2014 19:14:46 GMT
Draw, S. maximus was a little larger but T. tanneri had a bulkier structure, and probaly, an stronger bite.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Mar 6, 2014 20:55:41 GMT
I would evaluate Saurophaganax maximus' biteforce at ~10,000 newtons, I would also say it is a draw.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Mar 6, 2014 22:13:04 GMT
Draw, S. maximus was a little larger but T. tanneri had a bulkier structure, and probaly, an stronger bite. Torvosaurus was not bulkier, the Allosaurid had a deeper/wider torso and more centred mass. Also Saurophaganax had a more efficient biting method and a more flexible neck. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Mar 6, 2014 22:34:04 GMT
Draw, S. maximus was a little larger but T. tanneri had a bulkier structure, and probaly, an stronger bite. Torvosaurus was not bulkier, the Allosaurid had a deeper/wider torso and more centred mass. Also Saurophaganax had a more efficient biting method and a more flexible neck. This biting method has only been suggested for Allosaurus fragilis, we have no evidence to support it on Saurophaganax maximus. As I earlier estimated, its bite should be around ~10,000 newtons, which is a lot of force. I believe it wouldn't need that biting method to kill. |
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