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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 21, 2014 16:36:58 GMT
against a large allosaurus like the one shown in the comparison, this is rather a mismatch. even the average allosaurus would win comfortably. it simply has much better weapons. It isn't a mismatch, you are simply overrating Allosaurus fragilis and underestimating Carnotaurus sastrei. We are BACK to that stage where a dinosaur must be traditionally underrated.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 21, 2014 16:41:26 GMT
You even said it yourself that it is a minor advantage, why are you bringing it up? Why not exactly? Because you admitted it yourself that it is a minor advantage, so bringing it up is rather pointless.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 21, 2014 20:05:17 GMT
According to you everything has a point, thus what I said can't be pointless.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 21, 2014 20:07:22 GMT
2.4 tons is not a freakishly large Allosaurus, it is an 8.8 metre long specimen which is fairly average. I didn't mention that specimen in particular, why do you keep taking words out of people's mouths? I was talking about the Epanterias specimen, which you support as a large Allosaurus fragilis specimen. I am using averages. And we can't use a freakishly large Carnotaurus specimen because we don't have one.
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 21, 2014 20:58:35 GMT
That Allosaurus in that comparison I posted is 9.7 metres long, theropod scaled the big al computer analyse up and got a 3.2 ton estimate for that animal which is a ton heavier than any carnotaurus specimen I know of.
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Post by Allosaurus on Feb 21, 2014 21:46:10 GMT
against a large allosaurus like the one shown in the comparison, this is rather a mismatch. even the average allosaurus would win comfortably. it simply has much better weapons. It isn't a mismatch, you are simply overrating Allosaurus fragilis and underestimating Carnotaurus sastrei. We are BACK to that stage where a dinosaur must be traditionally underrated. i said it as a mismatch against a large allosaurus like that one in the size comp. you think that would not be a mismatch? it would simply be much bigger and completely outclass carnotaurus.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 22, 2014 19:45:08 GMT
I didn't mention that specimen in particular, why do you keep taking words out of people's mouths? I was talking about the Epanterias specimen, which you support as a large Allosaurus fragilis specimen. I am using averages. And we can't use a freakishly large Carnotaurus specimen because we don't have one. Replying to your other post: REASON, not POINT. I know we don't have a freak specimen, but you are missing the point. It obviously had freak specimens, so my point is that you are wrong by saying it was no more than 2 tons, technically. @sporerex: Yes, scaling from an immature and less robust specimen, so that is a minimum. Allosaurus: The point still stands, you do underrate the abelisaurid against other predators.
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 24, 2014 12:10:54 GMT
Against a 3+ ton Allosaurus it pretty much is a mismatch
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Post by rexog90 on Mar 6, 2014 19:18:18 GMT
Could we say that Allosaurus had a greater agility than Carnotaurus because of C. sastrei be bulkier? Agile and fast are not the same thing.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Mar 6, 2014 20:45:14 GMT
Could we say that Allosaurus had a greater agility than Carnotaurus because of C. sastrei be bulkier? Agile and fast are not the same thing. Yes, due to reduced rotational inertia.
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Post by thesporerex on May 9, 2014 20:44:54 GMT
Bump
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Jun 13, 2014 19:44:28 GMT
The allosaurid wins this, but it's far from an easy fight; the abelisaurid has its own advantages, and its bite wasn't to be underestimated.
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Post by alloultra on Dec 2, 2014 19:25:39 GMT
The allosaurid wins this, but it's far from an easy fight; the abelisaurid has its own advantages, and its bite wasn't to be underestimated. agreed carnotarus did have a few advantages e.g. wide gape, shorte skull
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