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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 18:53:06 GMT
Allosaurus fragilis
Carnotaurus sastrei
Allosaurus vs Carnotaurus |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 20, 2014 19:49:54 GMT
 Allosaurus wins. Carnotaurus may have a height advantage (due to its very high leg:body ratio), but Allosaurus has superior weaponry. Also Carnotaurus was designed for chasing down smaller prey according to this article: 'Such a conclusion states that the femoral strength indicator (quantity inversely related to the body mass) of Carnotaurus was high enough to endure strenous activities, suggesting that it may have preyed upon fast-moving, rather small prey.' www.miketaylor.org.uk/tmp/papers/Mazzetta-et-al_04_SA-dino-body-size.pdfSo Carnotaurus won't be hugely efficient at fighting a larger animal than itself. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 20:29:48 GMT
I'd say it's close, seeing as the considerably more robust brachyrostran has the rotational inertia advantage. I still give the edge to Allosaurus fragilis, however.
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Post by Allosaurus on Feb 20, 2014 20:59:24 GMT
i strongly favour allosaurus here. it has every advantage except height and speed (which hardly mean shit here).
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 20, 2014 22:39:00 GMT
i strongly favour allosaurus here. it has every advantage except height and speed (which hardly mean shit here). Carnotaurus also has a stockier build according to the skeletal I showed earlier, but that is not such an advantage considering that Allosaurus is actually larger. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 22:42:29 GMT
This is no mismatch or anything, I would say this is rather close instead of one-sided or comfortable in favour of one of them. And why generalize? It DOESN'T have every advantage.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 22:48:27 GMT
i strongly favour allosaurus here. it has every advantage except height and speed (which hardly mean shit here). Carnotaurus also has a stockier build according to the skeletal I showed earlier, but that is not such an advantage considering that Allosaurus is actually larger. There is no size advantage here, stop mentioning size in minor size advantage matches. And being more compact means less rotational inertia, meaning it will turn quicker and so it can't get outflanked, which is an advantage in its favour, if you ask me. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 20, 2014 22:53:36 GMT
Carnotaurus also has a stockier build according to the skeletal I showed earlier, but that is not such an advantage considering that Allosaurus is actually larger. There is no size advantage here, stop mentioning size in minor size advantage matches. And being more compact means less rotational inertia, meaning it will turn quicker and so it can't get outflanked, which is an advantage in its favour, if you ask me. There is a size advantage, an 8.8 metre long Allosaurus would weigh almost 2.5 tons, while Carnotaurus weighs no more than 2 tons. Allosaurus is 125% larger, which is still going to serve as a minor advantage. |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 22:55:59 GMT
There is no size advantage here, stop mentioning size in minor size advantage matches. And being more compact means less rotational inertia, meaning it will turn quicker and so it can't get outflanked, which is an advantage in its favour, if you ask me. There is a size advantage, an 8.8 metre long Allosaurus would weigh almost 2.5 tons, while Carnotaurus weighs no more than 2 tons. Allosaurus is 125% larger, which is still going to serve as a minor advantage. You even said it yourself that it is a minor advantage, why are you bringing it up? |
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 20, 2014 22:57:51 GMT
And I don't know why you keep saying Carnotaurus sastrei is NO MORE than 2 tons, while you support freakishly large Allosaurus fragilis specimens. We don't have a freak specimen of the latter, but that doesn't mean it couldn't grow larger, seeing as pretty much EVERY species known can have extremely large specimens.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 20, 2014 23:06:31 GMT
And I don't know why you keep saying Carnotaurus sastrei is NO MORE than 2 tons, while you support freakishly large Allosaurus fragilis specimens. We don't have a freak specimen of the latter, but that doesn't mean it couldn't grow larger, seeing as pretty much EVERY species known can have extremely large specimens. 2.4 tons is not a freakishly large Allosaurus, it is an 8.8 metre long specimen which is fairly average. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Feb 20, 2014 23:07:38 GMT
There is a size advantage, an 8.8 metre long Allosaurus would weigh almost 2.5 tons, while Carnotaurus weighs no more than 2 tons. Allosaurus is 125% larger, which is still going to serve as a minor advantage. You even said it yourself that it is a minor advantage, why are you bringing it up? Why not exactly? |
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Post by thesporerex on Feb 21, 2014 11:12:40 GMT
Also here is the largest Allosaurus specimen vs a carnotaurus  Carnotaurus doesn't even have its height advantage any more. It isn't really close its pretty one sided considering the majority of Allosaurus specimens are skeletally immature as they didn't need to be to breed. Allosaurus takes it pretty comfortably. |
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Post by Allosaurus on Feb 21, 2014 12:37:56 GMT
against a large allosaurus like the one shown in the comparison, this is rather a mismatch. even the average allosaurus would win comfortably. it simply has much better weapons.
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Post by Hatzegopteryx on Feb 21, 2014 16:31:53 GMT
And I don't know why you keep saying Carnotaurus sastrei is NO MORE than 2 tons, while you support freakishly large Allosaurus fragilis specimens. We don't have a freak specimen of the latter, but that doesn't mean it couldn't grow larger, seeing as pretty much EVERY species known can have extremely large specimens. 2.4 tons is not a freakishly large Allosaurus, it is an 8.8 metre long specimen which is fairly average. I didn't mention that specimen in particular, why do you keep taking words out of people's mouths? I was talking about the Epanterias specimen, which you support as a large Allosaurus fragilis specimen. |
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